From the BBC News archive, footage of the collapse of the Berlin Wall in 1989. Includes statement by then-Prime Minister of Great Britain, Margaret Thatcher.
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@Lintflas No doubt. Germany miracle was built with not only enormous reserves, from Marshall Plan . But also form enormous war gold deposits from Swiss Banks , abundant foreigners cheap working force , third world cheap food , South America cheap steell and minerals , the strong interest of US partnership , and a lot of intelectual big hegemonic fakes. Even Andorra can be one of the greatests, with such method,until the urge to keep expanding economy , whith war industry , again.
@Dellarsson
She, like Mitterand, was afraid that the Germans would try to start a third world war after starting two already. Of course, this wouldn’t happen because the postwar Allied occupation successfully turned the Federal Republic into a peace loving working democracy.
@Lintflas i doubt that there would be such a war between britain and germany again during that time period unless however the Soviet Union had prevailed in controlling the new Germany – but they didnt. Basically, to put it as an image, it was Britain and America who helped Germany ride off on his tricycle, not the Soviet Union. By which I mean, Germany became a free country but it was the British & Americans who ’styled’ the new country, government and it’s future to their own democratic liking
@Lintflas and yeah it was England’s Churchill who declared war on Germany – but remember, Germany were asking for it. They had taken over several countries around Europe mainly through aggression and power-hunger such as assassinating Austrian Chancellor Dollfuss in 1934 or threatening Schuschnigg (later Austrian Chancellor) in 1938 etc. If Britain didn’t act, they knew it would be too late and they too would be annexed. I think Britain’s declaration is extremely reasonable : /
@rockmeagainbaby
Yep, the victors set us back on track by helping to found of the republic, but they didn’t do this with unselfishness. And to make it clear, we made our way back to the top on our own. The Marshall plan was to give Germany credits (75 billion $) for the startup, but we payed back every cent.
I mention this because especially many Americans believe they did all the work, payed and build up Germany by themself, and this is completely wrong.
@rockmeagainbaby
Germany was NOT asking for it. Take a look at history books and realise that Germany didn’t want to fight Britain or USA. Initially lunatic Hitlers enemy was Russia and he wanted to take back german territory from Poland, but don’t get me wrong, we’re grateful to be liberated from this dark dictatorship.
That’s why Germany sees USA and Britain as closest friends today, because we know what we owe to them.
@rockmeagainbaby
Germany invaded ex-german territory in Poland (not several countries around Europe. This happened after the british declaration) and then Britain declared war on Germany because of their pact with Poland. Don’t confuse the chronological order.
@Lintflas Oh no i agree with you that america and britain werent doing it because of unselfishness – it was more to allow a good future trading partner and so forth as im sure you’ll agree. But please remember, Hitler took the Sudetenland, half of Czechoslovakia and Austria and started on Poland before Britain declared war. And the Hossbach Memorandum states that Hitler wanted war by 1943 at latest and for France and britain to be defeated.
@Lintflas And when I say ‘Germany was asking for it’ – i don’t mean Germany literally asked Britain for war. I mean that Germany was partaking in so many agressive events (such as taking over Sudetenland, czechoslovakia, austria then poland) which almost made it SEEM like Germany was asking for war. It’s imagery. Now you can argue that these area belonged to German which is a fair argument but storming into the country by force and assassination (for example dollfuss) is not justifiable.
@Lintflas Now I don’t want to start an argument here
At least we agree on that Hitler’s a lunatic eh? 
but yeah you’re German and i’m sure you know the history but I’m British and I have studied a course in Appeasement and the Road to War so I do know what I’m talking about as well 
Also, the course isn’t all ‘how wonderful and victorius we were’, its more the about the actions and mistakes each side made just incase you thought the course was opinion based rather than fact based 
@rockmeagainbaby
Austria was annexed, not invaded, and as I mentioned before, lunatic Hitler invaded ex-german territory. This includes the Sudetenland which was part of Germany before WW2. All this mainly happened because of the Versailles treaty which arbitrary cut off parts of Germany, so Hitler wanted to take it back, “Heim ins Reich holen”
Of course these actions were questionable, but also comprehensible up to a certain point.
@Lintflas What a despicable thing to say, how dare you attribute Hitler’s belligerent attitude to Churchill. Being so ignorant about history, perhaps you should keep your opinions to yourself.
@Lydiard91
It doesn’t speak in your favour to tell anyone to keep his opinions to himself, and it’s not enough to learn that usual post war propaganda history stuff at school to conceive an opinion, because it mainly shows the victors view.
@UnitedBritannia
Of course it was avoidable. You, the victors of WW1, put the whole blame for WW1 on Germany. You arbitrarily cut Germany to pieces on a map and the Versailles Treaty was a declaration of war itself. It was the major cause for WW2, and YOUR british government was involved, so please don’t tell me that Britain doesn’t have to bear part of the blame. All parties involved had blood on their hands, one way or another.
@Lintflas Are you suggesting that it was wrong for Churchill to declare war on Germany?
@Kochopsticks11
Yep, I suggest that Chamberlains declaration of war on Germany was wrong, because it turned a relatively small conflict into a world war, but the british government wanted this war, (though they still teach us all that it was inevitable) because they disliked a powerful Germany from the very beginning.
Britain had a pact with Poland, and the Russians also invaded Poland. If I were a Brit I would wonder why Britain never declared war on Russia.
@Lintflas: Do you know why the UK declared war on Germany? Because Germany (and I am German) followed an inhuman madman who destroyed vast parts of Europe!
Miss Thatcher made a big mistake anyway: She was DEAD AGAINST any kind of German or European unification so she deliberately treated Kohl as if he was Hitler which – as even her closest advisors realized – was unfair.
@Lintflas: Du musst darauf achten, dass du den Kontext nicht aus den Augen verlierst. Die Westmächte haben Deutschland nach dem 1. Weltkrieg in der Tat unfair behandelt. Aber das war NICHT der Hauptgrund für den Aufstieg Hitlers. Die meisten Deutschen wollten keine Demokratie und sind Hitler “auf den Leim gegangen”. Österreich, Sudetenland etc. zu besetzen war die Vorbereitung für eine Art “Rassenkrieg” gegen die Juden und andere Völker – der Holocaust wäre nur der Anfang gewesen….
@stipefan11
Ich bin klar der Meinung, dass Hitler ohne die vorherigen Ereignisse kaum Zulauf bekommen hätte. Hitler wurde sogar Anfang der 20iger Jahre wegen Volksverhetzung zu einer Gefängnisstrafe verurteilt, und seine Parteikasse wurde konfisziert. Als er aus dem Knast kam, hatte er keinen Pfennig mehr in der Tasche. Rate mal wer ihm seine Kasse wieder gefüllt hat. Es waren vornehmlich ausländische Unterstützer wie z. B. Henry Ford, Prescott Bush und andere.
You are wrong on Sudetenland. Sudetenland had never been German territory, it was part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire till the end of World War I, when it became part of an independent Czechoslovakia and remained so until 1938 when it was forcibly transferred to Germany.
@skandinaverberlin
Austria was allied and annexed to Germany, so the Sudetenland was part of Germany those days. Simple as that.
@Dellarsson She feared they would turn to socialism again.
british bitch!
@UnitedBritannia I reject any war between Britain and Germany because a war between genetic brothers is a PERVERSION. Stop buying the media propaganda.
@UnitedBritannia this is the official version of the story, the version wanted by the winners. rumour has it- only rumour unfortunately- that Britain instigated Italy to start the war in order to mitigate Germany expectations at the table of peace. sadly the documentation between Churcill and Mussolini that proves that was taken upon Mussolini execution by British intelligence to hide this uncomfortable truth.r u sure that British colonialism was exprssion of democracy and freedom?